Stephen Shadegg, state director of Americans for Prosperity–Arizona, joins Chris and Sean for a wide-ranging conversation on the DHS shutdown fight, border and national security, and why AFP-AZ is pressuring Arizona’s senators to do their jobs and get serious about governing. AFP-AZ has recently been publicly targeting Sen. Mark Kelly over DHS funding, with Shadegg arguing that political games are putting safety and security at risk.
From there, the conversation turns to Arizona politics: affordable housing, cost-of-living pressure, and whether Governor Katie Hobbs is showing the kind of leadership voters are looking for. Chris and Sean also dig into the 2026 political map, including Larry Sabato’s latest Crystal Ball analysis and why Arizona may be more competitive than the national pundits think.
It’s a candid conversation about government dysfunction, economic pressure, and the political future of Arizona and the country, with plenty of straight talk about what’s actually at stake for voters.
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