Light Beer | Dark Money marks its five-year anniversary with a special episode featuring two of the people who helped launch the show from the very beginning: Robert Vera and Dave Pratt, the “Morning Mayor of Palookaville.”

Five years ago, Robert Vera encouraged Chris to start a podcast built around the ideas of faith, freedom, and free enterprise. Chris brought the concept to Sean, and together they launched Light Beer | Dark Money at Grand Canyon University, where the early episodes had a very different tone and format than what listeners know today.

The show soon transitioned to Star Worldwide Networks, working alongside Dave Pratt, Robin Cote, and the Pratt Marketing team. It was there that Chris and Sean found their voice, sharpened their format, and began building a broader audience across Arizona and beyond.

In this episode, Dave Pratt reflects on why he believed in the show early and how it has contributed to the evolving media landscape in the Valley. Robert Vera shares insights into his current work at the University of Silicon Valley and the development of a growing entrepreneurship and technology incubator.

This conversation looks back at the origins of Light Beer | Dark Money, the key inflection points along the way, and what lies ahead as the show continues to expand its reach and impact.

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