Katie Hobbs has declined to debate Andy Biggs, and Sean and Chris think that decision raises a bigger question about what voters should expect from candidates asking to lead the state.
After watching Democratic Secretary of State Adrian Fontes and Republican challenger Alexander Kolodin actually sit down together on Arizona PBS, they turn to the governor’s race and ask why Arizona voters won’t get the same opportunity. They also get into the campaign money surrounding Hobbs and why Sean argues she is “hiding behind dark money” rather than facing Biggs on a debate stage.
Plus, why more film production is leaving Southern California, what California’s tax climate could mean for Hollywood, dramatic flooding footage from Nepal, and some baseball talk about the Diamondbacks, Dodgers and the difficulty of keeping an aging championship roster together.

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Ep. 361 Five Weeks Out!

October 1st, 2026|

Chris and Sean are back in the Cave with five weeks to go before the Arizona election. They start with the governor’s race and the arguments surrounding Katie Hobbs and Andy Biggs

Ep. 360 John Hart: The Gentleman Farmer Returns!

October 1st, 2026|

The Gentleman Farmer is back. John Hart joins Chris and Sean for a conversation about U2, campaigns, and the future of government transparency. With U2’s 50th anniversary approaching, the three revisit the