John Hart is Co-Founder of C3 Solutions, a conservative public policy think tank that sees and seeks capitalism as the solution for environmental issues. He is also the former Chief of Staff to legendary Oklahoma Senator, Tom Coburn, who passed away in 2020. John zooms in with Chris and Sean to discuss one of the most divisive Presidential State of the Union address in recent memory and how Conservatives can reach for “higher ground” in the forthcoming policy debates of 2023 and 2024.

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