Former Phoenix Mayor, Paul Johnson, and ASU professor, Henry Thomson, join Chris and Sean for a spirited discussion of the foundational principles of our country – and how they are unique to the understandings of liberty in the rest of the world.

They also promote their new podcast on the Optimistic American website, “The New Frontier” (https://www.optamerican.com/) which seeks to “remind other of the urgency of optimism.” A #mustListen in these divided and uncertain times.

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Episode 158 – Sean is now Catholic!

June 25th, 2024|

Sean talks about his conversion to Catholicism after being a life-long member of the LDS Church. From his mission to Indiana, to serving as a bishop of two wards in the LDS