Glenn Hamer is a consequential leader. As President of the Arizona Chamber of Commerce, he helped put Arizona on the map as THE state to grow your business. Now, as the President and CEO of the Texas Association of Business, he’s leading conservative business and public policy solutions in America’s fastest growing and, consequential, state. Chris and Sean zoom in with their longtime friend to talk Arizona politics, Doug Ducey, Kyrsten Sinema, and the why’s of the growth of the great State of Texas.

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